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Dispatches from the Diaspora's avatar

It's a bad habit but it's also possible (if the person who wrote in is a woman) that the boyfriend holds misogynistic views. Is he actually upset about the environmental impact, or is he angry that she won't cook for him when they move in together?

Kaitlin's avatar

He’s not upset about the environmental impact. He’s upset because ordering delivery is an indication of deeper issues. Skills like cooking, cleaning, and sewing are devalued BECAUSE of misogyny. They are essential skills every adult should possess. If this man does not order delivery, he likely cooks and is concerned about seriously dating someone who does not. Ordering delivery consistently speaks to deeper issues like poor financial planning, poor executive functioning, and laziness. It doesn’t seem like he expects her to cook for him. It sounds like he expects her to be a functioning adult.

Dispatches from the Diaspora's avatar

While I agree with you that cooking is a skill everyone needs to have, the reality is that HALF of men in the U.S. do not operate at a functional level and expect other people to pick up the slack for them. Only 52% men in the U.S. cook meals for themselves, while that number in women is 72%.

Kaitlin's avatar

But that is not the case here. This woman is part of the 28% of women who "do not operate at a functional level" and her boyfriend is presumably a part of the 48% of men who do.

Door dash delivery drivers (or bikers) are doing slave labor. Their wages are criminally low because the companies purposefully evade minimum wage laws. The workers are also very often immigrants.

There is an interesting conversation to be had here about classism, hedonism, immigration, the decline of executive functioning skills, and the increasing desire for a frictionless lifestyle.

To take such an interesting topic and go "if this is a woman (which idk if it is) this may actually be misogyny" is so boring. Your implication that he may not care about the environment (which is pretty clear from "her" submission that he does not) is indicative of the fact you aren't really aware or don't care about the deeper and more abhorrent issues at play here. It's just a "bad habit" let's focus on "possibility" of misogyny.

It's not just a bad habit, it's a choice that speaks to many deeper issues facing Americans and America today.

But idk, I wish I could be a libfem :(. Doordash your slopbowl, girlboss, and dump that boyfriend of yours no man should tell u what to do. And fuck ALL men, especially the immigrants biking in the freezing cold and rain so you don't have to cook a box of Annie's Mac and Cheese.

C.W.Renfield's avatar

OK, this was making sense right up the last idk, which kind of wandered off a cliff. Let's not drag old relationship flashbacks into a discussion about trying to catch a square meal without looking like someone in one of those monochromatic autofiction stories cluttering up the landscape. De facto slavery is what most gig work is-excellent point-lets leave it at that....

Kaitlin's avatar

Not the first time I've been accused of looking like someone in one of those monochromatic autofiction stories cluttering up the landscape

C.W.Renfield's avatar

Actually, this business of men not being able to feed themselves beyond whatever habits they acquired in 7th grade isn't new-one of the running jokes in a branch of my family was when my aunt came home late one night and found my uncle eating popcorn for dinner. A side effect of an Era when certain people

went directly from a prosperous university to a well-ordered one income home with no speed bumps between. Although you'd think any guy who'd been in the Army would know how to heat up a few basic field rations...

C.W.Renfield's avatar

I agree with most of this posted reply; I would add that the woman in question sounds like she's working herself to death for nothing if all she gets out of it is a frivolous firing during the next billionaire-driven AI downsizing to go with her sad bag of takeout leftovers. Basic cooking know how is an essential survival skill. Not tending to stuff like this is saying yes to the defeated zeitgeist of the Trump Era that offers more and more of less and less. All too many people are living out of a microwave and whatever excuse for wine the nearest box pours out. (And by the way, a meatless diet won't make you live any longer but it'll sure seem that way)

The Archivist's avatar

I thought this was going to be a Sally Rooney type thing about plastic packaging and environmentalism. But this was really interesting: How convenience-consumption eventually becomes unattractive even among wealthy people.

Reader's avatar

Have you ever considered that some restaurants maybe just maybe choose delivery because it’s better for them and more people are likely to buy their food? I don’t like delivery because I prefer to cook but this anti-capitalist moralizing about delivery is stupid. If her priorities lie not in cooking her own food and she can afford it, then go for it.

Hungry Ghost's avatar

I enjoyed reading this while having my takeaway leftovers from last night. To restraint!

J Reader's avatar

My compromise (on the rare occasion where it has to be delivery) is to ask the restaurant who they prefer/partner with for delivery. We also have a couple of restaurants that still do their own delivery (one is also a Black-owned family business, too!)

I know not every area has these options but I think if you do a little research and ask around (when you aren’t starving and exhausted) you might find a couple of options that work for both of you.